Kuding vs olive leaf

Two deliberately bitter leaf drinks from opposite ends of Eurasia. One is drunk for the sweet aftertaste that follows the bitterness; the other is a by-product that most people sweeten heavily.

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What is being compared

Point by point

AspectKudingOlive leaf
The formLarge leaves rolled tightly into dark spikes, and one or two pieces makes a glass.Loose dried leaf from pruning, used by the spoonful.
BitternessAmong the most bitter things anyone drinks deliberately, and the point of the drink.Firmly bitter, and generally moderated with honey and lemon.
The aftertasteA distinct sweetness arrives some seconds after the bitterness, which is why people persist.No comparable return sweetness. The bitterness simply fades.
Where it is drunkGuangdong, Guangxi and Hainan in hot weather, often from a tall glass refilled all day.The olive-growing districts of Turkey, Greece, Tunisia and Italy.
The identity problemTwo unrelated genera — a holly and a privet — are both sold as kuding.One species, but grove provenance and spraying are rarely stated.

The short answer

Kuding is the more extreme and the more rewarding if bitterness interests you at all. Olive leaf is the gentler entry point and the one that takes honey well.

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